The game is full of breath. Art is a need.A collection of interviews with poets, painters, and carvers from Tāmaki Makaurau, Aotearoa, New Zealand. Recorded last year, and produced during the National Lockdown in 2021. This episode is dedicated to the creatives who build, in spite of ****. Thank you.

Bypass Podcast is produced by Gabi Maffey. Our sound engineer is Ariki Perana. Intro music by Gabi Maffey, episode music by Gloria Florence. The interviews in this episode have been kept anonymous.

A transcript of this episode can be found here.